Guardian Books podcast: Fiction that pushes at the limits of design

As doom and disaster surround the paper book, writers are teaming up with graphic designers to push at the boundaries of what the novel can do.

We conduct a transatlantic conversation with two novelists whose latest works are also typographical investigations. Adam Thirlwell jabs digressions and deviations into the text of Kapow! at every angle, forcing the reader into a series of unfoldings and rotations, but isn't it the novelist's job to make a story into a convincing whole? TM Wolf builds up layer upon layer of dialogue, description and to create a polyphonic texture. Doesn't that make Sound more like a musical score than a novel?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/audio/2012/jun/22/fiction-graphic-design-podcast?CMP=twt_gu